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Freedom is born from the womb of 'science' not 'dogma.'

Mon Feb 6, 2012 6:00 AM EST
world-news, freedom, assad, progress, scince, alawites, syri
By iqbal.latif
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History of freedom is a linked phenomenon. I see hands of science behind this waft of freedom all across the Middle East. The remnants of the last ideological pillars face their ultimate nemeses: the new invented connectivity of the world challenging the established norms and traditions of desert.

The revolt against Syria's President Bashar al-Assad, inspired by uprisings which toppled three Arab leaders in 2011, has taken a sectarian slant as most of the protesters trying to topple the president are Sunnis. Progress and freedom from the bazaars of the world cannot be bought over hate shelf, it is a way of life and a way of thinking that needs maturity and toleration; the prerequisites of such a maturity is the dumping of ideological fixations for the good of man.

The conundrum of Syrian action jolts the conscience of man.  The callousness of Assad Jr.'s action shames Gaddafi obduracy and ruthlessness; but little changes in the part of the world where 1400-year-old schism between Islam is now being fought by the proxies of Iran, like the Alawites of Syria, backed by secular Russians and Chinese as  part of the great game of protecting their soft bellies of 'Strait' oils from the influence of Western alliance. The clannishness, secrecy and tenacity of Syria's power elite around Assad have deepened Sunni Muslim suspicions about the enigmatic Alawite faith. Iranian support of Assad is based on ideological proximity and Iranian last bastion and land connection to Middle Eastern trouble makers the Hezbollah's of Lebanon.   An oppressed minority for most of their history, Alawites suddenly cemented their control in Syria in 1970 when Assad's father Hafez staged a coup that sidelined the Sunnis. He built a ferocious security apparatus based on fellow Alawite officers.

Assad is from Syria's minority Alawite sect and critics say the president has filled senior political and military posts with Alawites to impose his rule through sectarian loyalty. Sunnis Muslim make up 74 percent of Syria's 22 million population, Alawites 12 percent, Christians 10 percent and Druze 3 percent. Ismailis, Yezidis and a few Jews make up the rest. Alawites are an offshoot of Shi'ites. Some other Muslims, particularly in Syria and Lebanon, accept them as Muslims, but others consider them heretics (ghali). Nations with no respect for science, logic and reason will have no toleration and freedom either. 

Religious fervour and inclinations of any state will lead to more complications. Man’s affair with God is his private matter; the states that sponsor the 'link' with man and god through enterprise of state ensures discrimination of attitudes to those who fail to ascribe to the version of the mullahcracy or clergy. Until papal bulls ran the affairs of Europe, no renaissance was plausible. It was only after papacy was bundled to Rome that renaissance appeared. Let's witness how science helped progress the freedom of mind! Thinkers and scientists like Galileo and Newton are fathers of Enlightenment.

Archimedes and Newton are amongst the greatest minds, they are the real prophets who have helped changed the trajectory of human progress. The ability of man to think freely helped Newton in Cambridge to write 'Principia Mathematica.' The Principia states Newton's laws of motion, forming the foundation of classical mechanics, also Newton's law of universal gravitation, and a derivation of Kepler's laws of planetary motion which Kepler first obtained empirically. The Principia is "justly regarded as one of the most important works in the history of science”.

It was Archimedes, Galileo's and Newton's conception of the Universe based upon Natural and rationally understandable laws that became one of the seeds for Enlightenment ideology. Locke and Voltaire applied concepts of Natural Law to political systems advocating intrinsic rights; the physiocrats and Adam Smith applied Natural conceptions of psychology and self-interest to economic systems.

For the greatest genius ever, one has to go with Archimedes. In Archimedes's time only mathematical notation that existed was Euclid’s geometry. Euclid's book on mathematics was the text book for mathematics for most of the world thousands of years with no changes or additions until Newton when calculus was added.  Archimedes was 1500 years ahead of his time; no one during his time could decipher the mysteries of nature and maths. Archimedes was probably the greatest mathematician that has ever lived. His work was not fully understood by the mathematicians over 1000 years after he was dead. Archimedes was working on Limits and started to develop Calculus.

The Roman soldier who killed Archimedes in reality delayed science by at least 1500 years. Archimedean Calculus 1500 years before Newton invented may have helped develop internal combustions engine far earlier. Albert Einstein benefited a lot from work of Riemann and Maxwell’s. Riemann tried to develop a gravitational theory with curved space, that helped Einstein to look at space-time not space. Maxwell sans Einstein would not have developed special relativity. Einstein was a great genius, but not amongst greatest of the other two.

Still 1500 years later Newton is credited as one of the two greatest as he developed physics and calculus, during a time when most people were still burning witches and thought that plagues were punishment from God. When Newton didn’t have the mathematics required to his work in physics, he invented calculus. Once man had  Calculus man mastered  the rates of change and Newton's Physics  changed the world.

The language of calculus as we know it was largely absent from the Principia; Newton gave many of his proofs in a geometric form of infinitesimal calculus, based on limits of ratios of vanishing small geometric quantities which was properly defined; man was able to design internal combustion engines, the harnessing of forces of nature in designed environment through our intelligence produced the productivity boost that helped human population and productivity, stagnated since last two millennia, to jump exponentially. Human population was 210m in around 100 AD and until 1000 AD increased to 270m from 1000 AD to 1800 AD the population increased to 900 m but after that in 200 years we are 7 billion and much better off.

People ask why we question instituted truth. Legitimacy of so-called 'established truth' is the cause of intellectual self-indulgence and degeneracy of ideas. What is fossilisation of mind? It is the worst ailment that affects most of us, but we rarely go to any specialist to seek help. Our clergy and soothsayers become our authority to seek remedies from malady of thoughts; they straitjacket us into thousands of years-old hold of incoherent fables and ask us to follow those for eternal nirvana; we create our own divisions of man based on antiquated ideas from scriptures, though it is just a matter of time we all as humans shall be one.

It is stagnation of mind that destroys balance of humanity. It is the established wisdom that needs to be questioned; any thought that abhors free enquiry based on rationalism and reason does not deserve to survive. Hierarchy of deceit that is imposed by the orthodoxy of established clergy is first to be challenged on all occasions. When someone talks about progress of a society I will ask them where their philosophers, thinkers and writers are; why are they not questioning; where is enquiry sitting on the list of their priorities. If one doesn't openly question the root of ills of our society, he becomes part of the ill. Anyone who is liked by everyone has to question this universal likeness. Once someone showed me how universally he is liked and I saw a coward right in front of me; idol smashers are not conformists but iconoclasts.

Today we need to talk about precise, surgical operations that are needed to cleanse this rampant puritanical streak of self- righteousness. It is not Islam-phobia to question cause and effects of delay in the emergence of renaissance and actions to overhaul antediluvian thinking processes; it is only through volte-face and restructuring that we will be able to eradicate from the organic body of 'political Islam' tentacles of its enormous fanatic infrastructure. We need our unwavering resolve to question and condemn the ills of lunatics and fringe killers who have taken upon themselves to make this earth heaven by making it hell for everyone.

Reform and revolution bring a change of direction and thinking does not multiply ignorance, debauchery, depravity and transgression. Revolution of 'Protestantism' owes its birth to corrupt Papal practices. Indulgence credits of the old days are like the Carbon credits of today: In the dark ages, when Papacy held control of men's consciences and few dared to think, one method which she practiced to supply herself with money was the sale of indulgences. The indulgence was a permission to sin and yet be free from its consequences. It is recorded that Pope John XII granted "ninety thousand years of pardons for deadly sins" for the devout repetition of three prayers written in a chapel in Rome. It was the sale of these future indulgences for money which awakened and aroused a few such honest souls as Luther and gave rise to the Reformation movement, called Protestant, because of their protests and objections to this and other evils recognized in Papacy.

The slide of nations in the 21st cradle of revolutions in the Middle East cannot be arrested by half measures of 'lesser dose of religion' rather an eradication campaign aimed at revolution to be democratic and freedom akin to the passage of the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen! And any revolution led by reactionaries who perpetrate continuity of 'doctrine and faith' that has lost all significance will just fade away or result in Robespierre and the Jacobinians’ anarchy.

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A.Greenspan

Great connection between freedom and science. Extremely enlightening, a passage of time from Euclid's to Asad is a journey from sublime to ridiculous and you negotiated it so well.

May be genius is genetic and greater freedom is a part of it. Einstein's brain had a very large Corpus Callosum, far bigger than an average man. The corpus callosum wires the right and left hemispheres of the brain and allows them to effectively transmit information back and forth. The communication of the two hemispheres possibly helps rationalise and develop complex ideas.


  • 6 votes
Reply#1 - Mon Feb 6, 2012 6:13 AM EST
AlSaud

Iqbal Latif is a top order narrator of events; he combines his hold on times gone by with the contemporary events of today. It is so enthralling to read a voyage through thousands of years from a vantage point of Iqbal's universal watch. This was last year as undercurrents of revolutions brewed:

The trajectory of this modern-day political growth was mindboggling and was not down to minerals or industrial revolution but the social media revolution, Web 2.0. This Google based freedom is a point of inflexion in human history where systems of suppression are collapsing. At this turning point 1.2 billion freedom deprived humans have crossed the Rubicon. The hurdle of ideological antiquated medievalism have been torn apart. The Arab, in particular the freedom-seeking nations in its core, have transitioned from the 1st generation of connectivity to the 5th generation of connectivity within a decade. Liberty will need to survive that infrastructural upgrade because while connectivity has its advantages it needs an inbuilt "software" of certain human norms such as respect and tolerance. Otherwise without those qualities in the ensuing vacuum only political Islam will have the organisation and the resources to emerge as a leading power.

http://iqballatif.newsvine.com/_news/2012/02/04/10316084-and-never-the-twain-shall-meet-google-based-revolutions-and-the-will-of-allah

  • 5 votes
#1.1 - Mon Feb 6, 2012 10:30 AM EST
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A.Greenspan

Iranians support of Assad is based on ideological proximity and Iranian last bastion and land connection to Middle Eastern trouble makers the Hezbollah's of Lebanon. An oppressed minority for most of their history, Alawites suddenly cemented their control in Syria in 1970 when Assad's father Hafez staged a coup that sidelined the Sunnis. He built a ferocious security apparatus based on fellow Alawite officers.

“Hezbollah received information that the Iranians who were captured in Homs had been taken to north Syria,” he told me. “So Hezbollah started bombing us there with Katyushas. They fired around 21 rockets from near Al-Hermel in Lebanon, which is close to the Syrian border.”

  • 5 votes
Reply#2 - Mon Feb 6, 2012 6:18 AM EST
Neron Kesar

Has anyone considered the answers in the book of Jonah to the Syrian problem?

  • 3 votes
#2.1 - Mon Feb 6, 2012 7:36 PM EST
Levi777

Neron, that book keeps coming up in conversations real world. What answers are you thinking of?

    #2.2 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 5:37 PM EST
    Neron Kesar

    There is an old Hebrew teaching that no one can discern the name of God before its time. The "Hashmal" associated with God's throne in Ezekiel 1 is the solution to the riddle of Jonah and the fish.

    It is said anyone attempting to know the name before its time would be consumed by fire from heaven.

    Jonah is a real prophet and a type (prefigurement) of the messiah.

    The personal intervention of the messiah is required to end the conflict. Although a noble attempt, this is why the mission of the Arab League was doomed to fail.

    • 1 vote
    #2.3 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 6:07 PM EST
    space guy

    Latest reports are that Iran has deployed 15,000 troops to Syria as mercenaries for Assad.

    • 1 vote
    #2.4 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 1:31 AM EST
    Levi777

    Neron, interesting. I never thought there was a question. To loosely put it, I always thought it was about the fact that God is merciful, and He has a way of getting what He wants. But I do understand rabbinical tendencies. There was a time when the rabbi who came up with the most bizzare interpretations was considered the most popular.

    Now, this question ends the book:

    10 But the LORD said, “You have been concerned about this plant, though you did not tend it or make it grow. It sprang up overnight and died overnight. 11 And should I not have concern for the great city of Nineveh, in which there are more than a hundred and twenty thousand people who cannot tell their right hand from their left—and also many animals?”

    His ways are higher than ours, are they not?

      #2.5 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 7:05 AM EST
      space guy

      His ways are higher than ours, are they not?

      Amen

      • 1 vote
      #2.6 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 11:06 AM EST
      Neron Kesar

      Some whales produce a substance in there bellies called ambergris. They expel this substance from their mouths and it floats to shore. In the past, it was collected as a medium for making perfume.

      • 3 votes
      #2.7 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:17 PM EST
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      Lisafrequency

      Well I wish science would leave natural foods and medicines alone and stop being so aggressive with mirco chips and surveillance equipment. Destroying nature and attempting to alter human beings to me does not seem very freeing.

      I know science wants to end religious beliefs but that does not seem very freedom mind of them. Let people come to their on conclusions.

      • 1 vote
      Reply#3 - Mon Feb 6, 2012 9:56 AM EST
      Rick_VT

      I know science wants to end religious beliefs...

      but, historically, it's been religions that have (and sometimes violently) fought to keep science discoveries away from the people they ruled. Knowledge of planets, orbits, stars, round-not-flat earths, and many other scientific discoveries were fought against by religion that wanted followers ignorant and unquestioning.

      Did scientists set out just to prove the bible wrong? I think they had their sights on the physical heavens and physical reality. Sorry, but the bible wasn't their guide book in gathering facts.

      While there probably were people claiming and crying out "Thor and Zeus Bashing" back in the old Greek god days, there was at least a majority of people that went along with the science, logic and reason route and placed that whole gaggle of Greek gods on the novelty shelf of history.

      Here in America today, there no doubt are those that solemnly light candles to honor Zeus and they are free to believe in Zeus all they want, but science trumps myth, superstition and ignorance.

      • 1 vote
      #3.1 - Mon Feb 6, 2012 11:03 AM EST
      sunshine girl-685508

      We have more religious freedom in our secular, scientific societies than people had in their theocratic/monarchies past, where just having a different belief got you EXECUTED!

      • 4 votes
      #3.2 - Mon Feb 6, 2012 11:13 AM EST
      Levi777

      Even as I affirm the existence in past and present history of religiously dogmatic cultures that enslave and prohibit freedom of choice and expression, I must also say that there is nothing I have discovered that says that science and Theism must be at odds. Who is it that has made it so? Rick_VT says that

      "...historically, it's been religions that have (and sometimes violently) fought to keep science discoveries away from the people they ruled. Knowledge of planets, orbits, stars, round-not-flat earths, and many other scientific discoveries were fought against by religion that wanted followers ignorant and unquestioning."

      There was a day when science performed lobotomies and used leeches "bleed" people of illnesses, disease, insanity, etc. The history of science is rife with neanderthalic exercise and butchery designed to heal. Science did nothing to alleviate the Black Plague that swept Europe, until millions had died. Indeed, many of a scientific bent blamed religion.

      I always find it interesting that the gauntlet run goes from disinterest/denial of God, then blaming God for causing/not stopping some terrible event, then concluding He is mean and hateful, and all who believe in Him are deluded. That dynamic is in play also.

      Science and the Bible, Science and Faith in God do not have to be enemies. Science pursues knowledge of the world from a no-God perpective, and arrives at the 'fingerprints' of God; the mechanics of how He did it, even though those mechanics are well beyond the ability of man to replicate. Science cannot create the gene sequence, nor form a planet.

      " 2It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." ~ Proverbs 25:2...the Bible.

      • 1 vote
      #3.3 - Mon Feb 6, 2012 4:16 PM EST
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      sunshine girl-685508

      I know science wants to end religious beliefs but that does not seem very freedom mind of them. Let people come to their on conclusions.

      While I agree with you that we need to show more respect for nature and not rush to alter it without appreciating the balance we might be upsetting, I think your fears about religious freedom being threatened by science are unfounded.

      It is not science's goal to end religious beliefs but to understand the Universe AS IT IS.

      Yes as people become more scientific they become less superstitious and fearful. It is an inadvertent result of gaining more knowledge. Knowledge is power. Which you can use to better move through the natural and man-made world. It does not mean you have been forbidden from being religious but you just have no need to be anymore.

      The fact is, we have more religious freedom today in a more scientific and secular world than a millennia ago when people were being burned and tortured and exiled for having different beliefs. Religious societies are more filled with strife and conflict and denial of freedom than secular ones.

      What I think you are actually referring to is that the more scientific a society becomes the less it relies on any one religious tradition to make legislative, economic, civil-right decisions and the more it relies on evidence, research, logical and rational analysis. That is a GOOD THING!

      • 5 votes
      Reply#4 - Mon Feb 6, 2012 11:11 AM EST
      Lisafrequency

      I think your fears about religious freedom being threatened by science are unfounded.

      Fear is the wrong word to describe what I see happening. I feel pretty matter of fact about it.

      Science is cold and calculating and serves a terrible master that does not care about life.

      • 2 votes
      #4.1 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 9:02 AM EST
      Lisafrequency

      What I think you are actually referring to is that the more scientific a society becomes the less it relies on any one religious tradition to make legislative, economic, civil-right decisions and the more it relies on evidence, research, logical and rational analysis. That is a GOOD THING!

      i don't care about religion all that much if I am free I can think what I want. I am very concerned about how science is altering nature with no accountability. I am not impressed with modern day Dr. Frankenstein technology splicing genes of animals into plants and incorporating pesticides into food. I call it a crime. They are taking away our right to eat pure food with nutritional value. They want patent the DNA of plants and animals and people are probably next.

      If science had any good intention toward mankind they would find away to get us off of fossil fuels. Which if they would look at Nicola Tesla's work they would most likely find the answer. They don't want the answer.

      • 3 votes
      #4.2 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 4:56 AM EST
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      space guy

      The truth will set you free....

      Wonder who said that....

      Science can be just as dogmatic as religion.

      • 2 votes
      Reply#5 - Mon Feb 6, 2012 11:30 AM EST
      sunshine girl-685508

      Science can be just as dogmatic as religion.

      Only if the people are dogmatic. Science is all about exploration and understanding based on the evidence and as a result is SUPPOSED to change, evolve as we learn more and more. If there is any scientist who clings to a conclusion that has now been revised because of a preponderance of evidence, he has lost his integrity.

      • 1 vote
      Reply#6 - Mon Feb 6, 2012 11:41 AM EST
      space guy

      Only if the people are dogmatic.

      Exactly my point, people ARE dogmatic. All you have to do is read the climategate emails and look at how Mike Mann wants to prove anthropogenic global warming no matter where the truth may lie.

      • 2 votes
      #6.1 - Mon Feb 6, 2012 12:12 PM EST
      sunshine girl-685508

      A scientist who is dogmatic despite all evidence to the contrary will soon find himself kicked outside of the respected academic community.

      Constant peer review and falsification is what makes science a lot less dogmatic than religion. You don't often hear of a fatwah being issued against a scientist for daring to challenge a conventional belief.

      The ability to even challenge a belief without being told you are evil is what makes it superior.

      • 1 vote
      #6.2 - Mon Feb 6, 2012 12:45 PM EST
      space guy

      The ability to even challenge a belief without being told you are evil is what makes it superior.

      Think again. Just how many times have you read that anyone who does not "believe" in global warming is evil, a polluter, in the pay of Exxon, blah blah blah.

      Read about what they said about Einstein for years before relativity was finally confirmed.

      People who believed that big holes in the ground came from asteroids were derided for centuries.

      Dr. Max Plank said it best "Science advances, one funeral at a time".

      Anyone who thinks that science somehow is virtuous simply has not been associated with science and scientists.

      • 6 votes
      #6.3 - Mon Feb 6, 2012 1:59 PM EST
      Levi777

      space guy, what science says and what science does is actually very much like the religionists of yesteryear, and sadly, even today in some parts of the world. I challenge certain "beliefs" of science because they have not proven their case. The billions of years age of the world has not been proven. The origins of man has not been proven. Macro-evolution has not been proven. Yet these are held as sacrosanct, and to deny their absolute veracity is to be labelled a nutjob, a believer in fairy tales. Indeed science is none too kind when confronted with evidence of the existence of God, relegating any such existence to the files of "anecdotal evidence". Indeed, if the same requirements of proof were placed on macro-evolution that is placed on Creationism, science would still be in a conundrum trying to explain the fossil record.

      Philosphy and Apologetics can run circles around atheistic science, and opting out of the challenge is nothing but cowardice and failure to admit that a position is unsupportable. Theism and Science do not at all have to be enemies. Science, in reaction to religious dictatorships of years past (that wounded us all!) has declared Theism to be outdated, archaic and void. Why must the pendulum swing all the way to the other side? Is not the actual TRUTH somewhere in the middle? What is the hurt to mankind of seeking the TRUTH above a no-God agenda? Why is it so acceptable to buy into the no-God agenda with nothing more than a passing wave and the application of the label FALSE?

      The gene sequence was around long before anyone even thought to try and map it's course. And Science had a party, and patted each other on the back, declaring the supremacy of the intellect of man....when they found the finger of God. But did they honor Him? Not at all.

      Would it not benefit all of mankind to discover the finger of God, instead of propounding suppositions and theories as truth? Yes, honor those who by painstaking research and devotion made the discoveries, but also honor the One who created that which they discovered.

      • 1 vote
      #6.4 - Mon Feb 6, 2012 6:45 PM EST
      space guy

      The billions of years age of the world has not been proven.

      It has been proven as much as we care to prove. God did not create everything in place to give the appearance of age as that would be a lie and God is not the father of any lies, someone else is the father of all lies. Guess who.

      • 1 vote
      #6.5 - Mon Feb 6, 2012 7:29 PM EST
      Levi777

      Yeah, I know who. Sadly, many people don't recognize the lie nor the liar. I have read that the SCIENCES of Geology and Paleontology actually give evidence for the truth of what is known as the Restoration Theory, or the Reconstruction Theory. This Theory, for which there is evidence also in Biblical writings, supposes that the earth was an inhabited planet administered by a beautiful archangel, Lucifer. When he introduced another will into the Universe, and rebelled, there was a war, and in that war, the earth was rendered "without form and void, and darkness was on the face of the deep." Of course, this may lead to fanciful daydreaming of what the inhabitants of that world were like. Did they have free will? Were they formed from the dust as man was formed? There is a purpose for our free will, which I don't want to really stray into here, but that purpose, tied to the fall of satan and the redemption of this planet, may not have been neccesary where no redemption was needed.

      Anyway, I know that creation has progressed, and I suspect the truth of micro-evolution...changes within species as they adapt to environment. And I am still at a loss as to how to explain the useless webbed feet on a ratfish, but macro-evolution just doesn't seem to do the trick.

        #6.6 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 6:53 AM EST
        space guy

        supposes that the earth was an inhabited planet administered by a beautiful archangel

        The book of Jeremiah has interesting allusions to pre-adamic times, including the ice age, the gap theory of time, and as a meeting place for intelligent beings. There is much more to our commonly loved book than the scoffers will ever know.

        • 2 votes
        #6.7 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 11:08 AM EST
        WatcherInTheShadows

        Sunshine, when last I checked diplomas were not made of magic paper that made scientists transcend being human. Nor college a place that forces such a transcendence. As "space guy" points out, try questioning anthropogenic global climate change and watch the response.

        • 3 votes
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